Roy Wood Jr. does his own form of audience testing. In this interview for the Good One Podcast, Wood talks about how he developed a hilarious bit called “Black Patriotism?” for his special, Father Figure.

In the interview Wood talks about testing his jokes on different kinds of audiences in different parts of the country to make sure they will reach the most people. This could sound like pandering, or working to the lowest common denominator, but not in this case. Roy Wood Jr. is refining his message and making it accessible without dialing back any of the underlying message.

Listen and see if you agree.